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illford baker
STK Scientific
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.27 23:29:00 -
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a cold chapter for who? the lawless individuals who steal everything they want because of their sense of entitlement. i for one welcome law to the internet, can there be a golden age in a lawless world?
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illford baker
STK Scientific
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.28 00:12:00 -
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 Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: illford baker
a cold chapter for who? the lawless individuals who steal everything they want because of their sense of entitlement. i for one welcome law to the internet, can there be a golden age in a lawless world?
Torrent is not Synonymous with Piracy, Illegal or Crime. Go educate yourself.
Brb, adding Demonoid, The Pirate Bay and a couple of other places to my Hosts file, so that when the DNS servers inevitably go down, my computer already knows the IP to ping for the website.
torrents are to piracy as guns are to crime, torrents are great ways to distribute files but the fact is that most torrents are for piracy.
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illford baker
STK Scientific
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.28 00:29:00 -
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Edited by: illford baker on 28/11/2010 00:31:10
Originally by: Blane Xero
And yet nobody can provide hard numbers on this. It's always this broad statement that it comes down to; but there is absolutely no rock solid statistic that shows how many torrents contain illegal files compared to ones that do not.
yes because piracy is such a shady business, but you cannot say that there are not a large number of illegal torrents out there. how do pirates do their business then? sending flash drives/cards through snail mail?
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illford baker
STK Scientific
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.28 00:53:00 -
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Originally by: el Sabor
I've never really known anyone who uses torrents to get anything legally to be honest!
clear skies
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illford baker
STK Scientific
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.28 04:03:00 -
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Originally by: So Sensational
Originally by: illford baker
a cold chapter for who? the lawless individuals who steal everything they want because of their sense of entitlement. i for one welcome law to the internet, can there be a golden age in a lawless world?
"To illegally, or without the owner's permission, take possession of something by surreptitiously taking or carrying it away."
Nope, sorry, try again.
what do you mean? that is what you are doing. by pirating something, you are taking it away form the owner without paying him/her anything.
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illford baker
STK Scientific
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.28 05:35:00 -
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Originally by: So Sensational
Nope, I am making a copy (From another third party no less), I take nothing.
you are making a copy, and you are taking a sale from him. money that SHOULD go to him. you are taking something, don't try to rationalize it into something else.
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illford baker
STK Scientific
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.28 06:19:00 -
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Originally by: So Sensational
Edited by: So Sensational on 28/11/2010 05:58:48
I take no sale because I wouldn't and couldn't purchase the product. I already spend all the entertainment dollars (Kronor in this case) that I'm capable of spending.
You could argue that if there was no piracy, and I at some point in the future had access to more money, I might purchase one of the items I download. That is possible but in my opinion that's far from enough to outweigh the positive aspects of piracy.
The "taking a sale" part is a bit of a gray zone because with torrents you're sharing the files, I might be taking a sale (Or several) or I might not be depending on who I'm sharing with. That is a separate debate altogether though.
if you were not going to spend money on it anyway, than you do not deserve it. if you don't think its worth money, than you don't deserve to use it. that is one of the most flimsy arguments i have ever heard defend piracy!
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illford baker
STK Scientific
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.11.28 07:30:00 -
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Originally by: Kalle Demos
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games: BS, you cant "try" a whole game. take the damn risk, risk is a part of life. if demos, and reviews, and videos are not enough for you, then don't buy or torrent it, it is clearly not for you.
software: yes expensive, and there are free alternatives usually (open office, linux). also you get support if you buy.
shows: yea the lag sucks. but another part of life and i think that you should get the shows with no lag, you can try petitioning the right people to try and change their mind. yes ads suck, but thats why i love DVR's, skip the ads so long as you don't watch it live. TBH, there are a few good ads that did make me consider the product, but they play it again and again and again until i want to stab the creator of the ad in the face!
movies: the theaters do need to bring back intermission, you expect me to hold back my large drink for that long!?!? but i am patent and willing to wait till it comes out on DVD or netflix or whatever so i can watch it as many times as i want, and stop and start as many times as i want.
and as for your last statement "an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" don't stoop to their level, tit for tat retaliation just makes a viscous circle. example
random person: i pirate because of DRM
company: i DRM because of pirate
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